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Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:22 am
by appleton
More than 70 people have been killed by two bombs in Baghdad, attached to two mentally disabled women and detonated remotely, says a security official. ... 221639.stm

Disgusting. I am not shocked though.

If they keep going eventually the hardliners and sympathetics will be so disgusted with their behavior they will be outkast and washed away. Even hardliners are shocked at this.

Strapping a bomb to yourself is one thing, strapping a bomb to people who don't know what it is they are truly doing is another...

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:56 pm
by Romulus111VADT
This is only more evidence of the type of people the world is dealing with.

I remember watching a news story on NBC Nightly News awhile back. They were interviewing a suicide bomber that had survived an attack. He told them of how he had come to Iraq to be a freedom fighter. He said when he arrived he was in a room full of people and a man asked who wanted to be a martyr.

Those that chose to (there were very few) went with the man. The rest were taken (including him) elsewhere.

He was then asked to drive a gasoline tanker truck to an area. He agreed and was driving it towards this area. When he noticed his chase cars were hanging way back. He became suspicious and prepared to jump from the truck. He opened the door of the truck and the truck exploded. He leaped from the truck on fire and stated to run. He was taken down, put out and arrested by people in the area of the blast.

He later learned that the truck was wired with explosives and was detonated remotely. This was more than likely done from one of the chase cars.

I really wonder just how many good people have been tricked into being suicide bombers?

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:54 pm
by Dom
I can't believe that this happens! I've come to expect some pretty shocking things from certain groups of people, but this is outrageous!

How can they justify using mentally disabled people like that? It's bad enough that your average person can be tricked into doing things like that (as per your story Rom) but using people who don't know what they're doing is beyond sick. They can't honestly think that they're God would want them to do that. They might just as well use babies or something.

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:06 pm
by Tony
I heard about this and was pretty shocked but im just wondering if this is a propaganda stunt from somewhere?
I only watched a little bit on the news so i dont know the whole story or anywhere near but im just wondering how they can say that someone that has just been blown up was mentally disabled.
If theyre going off eye witness reports how would you know i can honestly say that mentally disabled people walking through a street do not stand out to me at all, also if they were women then do they not wear veils anyway?

Just a thought i had, im not trying to strike up an argument and like i said i didnt see a full news report so i may well have missed something but those are the first thoughts i had.

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:13 pm
by Dom
Well anything's possible. I know I certainly took it at face value without questioning it, so I guess a fair few others might have done too. Having said that, where would a claim like that come from? There must be some truth to it; it seems a bit random to be just made up.


RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:50 pm
by Lad
I saw that on the news. The shocking thing for me was that they couldn't have known. Remotely detonated. Even if they had agreed it would have been bad because they were unable to make the decision, but to blow them up without them even agreein to it is so sick. Fancy killing your own people on your side who don't even want to die.

I'm shocked by what you said Rom. I knew terrorists were the scum of the criminal world, but that really left me numb. When I think about it, it shouldn't surprise me, but I'm embarrased to say I thought better of the terrorists. I thought the reality was that there were hundreds of people all willing to kill themselves. This makes me wonder how true the claim is.

Despite this tragedy, I think it shows that Iraq is improving, but still a dangerous place and the troops are still very much needed. Bombings are becoming less frequent and less people are dying. While we bow our heads at tragedies like this we must remember (hey I sound like a politician!) that overall things have never been better in Iraq since the invasion.

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:12 am
by Romulus111VADT
They might just as well use babies or something.

This was done in Vietnam by the Vietcong Guerrillas. I posted a story about it along time ago in the old forums. Can't locate the story, but they would kidnap babies from mothers and from orphanages. The Vietcong version of the suicide bomber was called a sapper. Their females would take these babies wired with explosives and approach US soldiers pretending to be a mother in distress. Once the soldiers gathered around to give her and the child aide....BOOM!

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:38 pm
by Lad
From orpanages! Don't remember that bit. It seems to me that these people are blinded to understand what is evil. Fighting a war is one thing, using babies, young children, the disabled and other vulnerable is just so wicked. What drives these people to act like this? It's just murder and nothing else; that's not called an army, or a group of soldiers.

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:21 pm
by Romulus111VADT
Total and complete disregard for human life and rights. They don't care what they must do to achieve their goals. It doesn't matter to them if their actions are deemed as immoral or evil, as long as they can use the physiological effects to gain a win.

I mean look at what the Nazi's did during WWII and lets not forget the Japanese and the horror they brought all over Asia.

Psychological warfare has been practiced thought history and is a very effective way to fight a war. To win a war, you must become war. Total war and show no mercy or compassion of any type to your enemy.

RE: Terrorists stoop to new lows...

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:25 pm
by appleton
Would it be this Rom? - Just searched for sappers in the forum.

I remember reading about "sappers" elsewhere too.

Lad, Its a mixture of selfishness and pure evil. They don't care about how they meet their goals and they enjoy seeing people suffer and die.