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RE: Capital punishment

Post by bradleyjohnsonjr.us » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:56 am

How do you think they all should be castrated if that needs to be done? There all all kinds of ways?

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RE: Capital punishment

Post by Romulus111VADT » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:53 pm

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How do you think they all should be castrated if that needs to be done? There all all kinds of ways?
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Well, the 3 little fellows that pissed on the Vietnam Memorial were offered first hand knowledge of a machete.

Oh, I don't know, lets see. Lets make it a memorable experience. One he may want to pass down to anyone that might be considering rape. So lets just nail them to a board and lop them off with a machete. That should have the desired effect.

I've seen the aftermath of a gang rape that killed a woman in Vietnam. The VC used this terror tactic to serve as a warning to anyone that opposed them. So I have no pity on any rapist, nor do I have any reason to show them mercy.

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RE: Capital punishment

Post by Lass » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:37 pm

Death penalty for murder, yes. For justice, not on the basis of 'eye for eye' ... there is a difference, at least in my mind!

For rapists ... don't like the whole castration idea. There is something kinda vengeful about it. I think the legal system should deal out justice, not revenge. Leave revenge for societies that are rather less than civilised. I think castration is all about trying to do as bad to the criminal as he did to his victim. I think there's a subtle difference between punishment and simple retaliation. Having said that, I don't claim to have a clear idea as to what rapists should be sentenced to.
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RE: Capital punishment

Post by Romulus111VADT » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:43 pm

I guess once you've seen rape used as a terror tactic to terrorize an entire race of people, your prospective changes.

I mean, listening to a six year old little girl describe how her mother and 2 sisters were gang raped to death in front of her, her father and brother. Then watching her father and brother get beat to death with an iron bar. These things tend to really impact your sense of what is justice and what is vengeance.

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Post by Lad » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:13 pm

The level of violence you encountered Rom is soo far away from what people think of these war torn regions. I can't think of anything about that bunch of people that they DIDN'T do. They seemed to have gone through every torture method known to man. I imagine this is all going on in Darfur and if only everyone had the images you have in your mind then something would be done. The more I hear of Vietnam the more I realise why more soldiers died taking their own life than which fell in the war and why there are hundreds of thousands of alcoholic veterans living on the streets. :(

It shouldn't be revenge. It is a case of saying, this man's head is in his pants. To solve the problem we will remove the problem. A nice PC term could be "hormone removal" or "hormone redevelopment". Maybe a warning is suitable for a first offence and then an operation for a second. It can be done painlessly and professionaly. I really don't have a problem with it. I for one hate jails and I think they make inmates worse rather than better. Locking people up is enough to make them insane and there has to be more effective punishments and training programs out there.
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RE: Capital punishment

Post by appleton » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:06 pm

I don't think a warning is enough for a first time rape offense. It should be castration period and the person should be referred to a specialist to see if he/she has any mental problems.

I don't see rape as a vengeance act. It's this Crime act - Trial - Punishment...
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RE: Capital punishment

Post by periphrastic » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:01 am

[quote=matt]and the person should be referred to a specialist to see if he/she has any mental problems.[/quote]

Well, wouldn't it already have been established that he had "mental problems" by virtue of the crime?

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RE: Capital punishment

Post by blackfalcon » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:09 pm

[quote=Romulus111VADT]
I don't know if it's from my up bringing, my Religious beliefs (An Eye For An Eye), my military background, my involvement in Vietnam, or all of the above. But I believe the crime should dictate the punishment.

Any murderer should face death in the exact same way they killed their victims. Any sex crime should have mandatory castration. Any sex crime that involves murder should have not only mandatory castration, but a mandatory death penalty.

Oh, I know, "What about the criminals human rights!" I believe the criminal should be shown the same concern for his/her human rights as they showed their victims.
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I'm more or less on the same line as Rom. If you deprive someone of the only life they have you must surrender your own. For every other type of crime there is usually a way back to normality. Once you are dead you are dead and there is no way back. In all other crimes the human rights can be restored to a citizen. However, that is not possible in murder and therefore the criminal must bear the consequences.

For sex crimes; for the serious ones castration and a short prison sentence. For the less serious ones a warning is more appropriate and a short prison sentence. If it is still possible for a sex offender to continue after the operation they should be jailed for long periods.
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I back you up all the way. It pisses me off how so many people say that the death penalty is so bad. Well, think of it this way. If someone killed your father,mother,wife,son,daughter, brother, sister, what would you think? Would you be saying "Respect his rights!!!!" no. Lets compare. Death by a nice painless thing, or being beaten to death.
So many people say that the death penalty causes pain. Well, the day that murderers go around killing their victims with what is suppose to be painless methods, and still show concern as to the pain admitted, will be the day I appose the death penalty.
As for rapists. I do not believe in castration. To me that just sounds barbaric. Now dont get me wrong. I am not some criminal rights freek. I do not believe in castration, I believe in 35 year jail sentances.
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RE: Capital punishment

Post by Lad » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:42 pm

I just don't like prison. It just seems barbaric locking someone up numb for decades. If people can't control themselves maybe they need a hand. What would you prefer? Loose total liberty for 35 years or your assets? I know which I'd choose given the option in court. Maybe that should be done then. Give them the option.
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RE: Capital punishment

Post by ford007 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:35 pm

I strongly support death penalty. It is the most effective way to reduce crime rate. I suppose death sentence should be made mandatory for the following crimes.
(1) Rape of children less than 12 years old
(2) First degree murder conducted in extremely grotesque technique.
(3) Treason against the nation.
(4) Masterminding distribution and sales of illegal drugs to schoolchildren.
(5) Repeated sexual offenders.
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