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We knew it all along...

Post by Lad » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:56 pm

but it doesn't bode well for Iran. Now almost everyone agrees they support terrorism. These extraordinary sums of cash from a country so poor. Who thinks Iran should have nuclear weapons? Hmmm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 112036.stm
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Post by DodgeFB » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:29 pm

[quote=Lad]
but it doesn't bode well for Iran. Now almost everyone agrees they support terrorism. These extraordinary sums of cash from a country so poor. Who thinks Iran should have nuclear weapons? Hmmm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 112036.stm
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I don't think they should have them. But I think it has gone too far to stop them now.

As for them giving Hezbollah money, I am afraid I have seen this movie. Back when I was young (sounds silly I know) the US and the old Soviet Union would fight but they never got hurt. They would arm and support someone and we would arm and support their enemy. It was in my opinion a nasty game.

I am not saying this will happen. But this could happen.

Iran uses Hezbollah as their fighters. The United States uses Israel as their fighters.

And they both sit back and pull the strings.

Lots sword rattling and chest beating all round.

Where do I come up these opinions anyway?
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Post by Lad » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:35 pm

That's another way of looking at it. I hadn't considered that.
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Post by KDSM » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:49 pm

[quote=Lad]
but it doesn't bode well for Iran. Now almost everyone agrees they support terrorism. These extraordinary sums of cash from a country so poor. Who thinks Iran should have nuclear weapons? Hmmm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 112036.stm
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they are not poor for god's sake! they are floating on a sea of oil!


The only reason they are "poor" is because most of their oil income is going to their nuclear program and terrorisim abroad.

they are also training and funding the shia insurgency in Iraq
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Post by Romulus111VADT » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:03 pm

My views on Iran are quite simple. If they want nukes that bad, we should send them a few!

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Post by Lass » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:12 pm

"Floating on a sea of oil..." This has mystified me for some time; what puts the difference between countries like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (which are prosperous, as far as I know) and countries like Iraq and Iran? Both have oil.
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Post by Lad » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:00 pm

There are several reasons. There are many many wealthy people who are multi-millionaires, perhaps billionaires in the oil trade. However, the other extreme is dire poverty. These countries have a very small middle class. The reason for the difference as KDSM points out is because they don't spend their money wisely. Iraq has been at war for years. The Iraq-Iran war saw 1 million people die alone and just imagine the financial cost for that. Nuclear technology is extremely expensive. These countries have the sun as well as oil - they have no need for nuclear. Their ambition is to get weapons and ultimately sanctions from the UN take their toll.

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are much better off that Iraq and Iran because they are more sensible with their money and invest it in infrastructure. However, even in these countries the income is extremely unevenly distributed and there are many poor people and many very wealthy people.
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Post by Lass » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:05 pm

Hmm, yeah ... Good point about sanctions; I'd forgotten that.
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Post by appleton » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:43 pm

Iran is digging itself a hole. They from a economic point of view have probably invested too much into making the program work to stop enriching uranium.

I believe Ben is correct. The money made from the oil they export is not spent/used wisely. Just look at Bahrain there is just a small minority of people living in poverty compared to Iran.

Iran can keep on enriching uranium but it should not be surprised when international forces (maybe even the UN :P ) bomb Tehran.

This is true of some African countries. Nigeria springs to mind. They are quite rich but money is not spent wisely the people do not benefit. In the rush for nukes the people lose out! Just like N. Korea too
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Post by DodgeFB » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:52 pm

Scary thought there Matt! " The thought of the UN actually going to war for real is too scary!!Image They need to send those messages "in the strongest possible terms" for about 20 years before they do too much. UN in a real war, scary stuff there. And you may be right.Image
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