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Turkey mulls over invading Iraq

Post by jafar00 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:18 pm

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Post by Lad » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:25 pm

I think the US is rather busy in other areas of Iraq to worry about the north. Those terrorists obviously are not so much of a problem. A Turk invasion though would be a real pain and I would imagine the US would do everything to stop the Turks invading.
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Post by jafar00 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:58 pm

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I think the US is rather busy in other areas of Iraq to worry about the north. Those terrorists obviously are not so much of a problem. A Turk invasion though would be a real pain and I would imagine the US would do everything to stop the Turks invading.
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Those terrorists are a problem for Turkey, Why the double standard? I thought all terrorists came under fire in the "War on Terror"?

Then there is also the MEK (Iranian) terrorists whom the US is using in clandestine operations (car bombs etc) within Iran.

Do they stop being terrorists and become an asset if they are killing Iraqis, Turks and Iranians instead of Americans, Brits and Israelis?
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Post by Romulus111VADT » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:53 pm

I think the US may well welcome the Turks as allies with the same objective- to eliminate terrorist. The Kurds on the other hand may not be so thrilled. The Kurds to the best of my knowledge have claimed the northern oil fields as their own and plan to enter the oil market as soon as Iraq becomes self governing and stable. The Kurds may see the Turks as a threat to their oil wealth. I believe that the Kurds think that Turkey has been eying the northern oil fields for many years.

Ummm, Jafar, please enlighten me. What exactly are Kurds? I've heard Sunni and Shia used and of course Kurd. But I'm a little vague on what they are. I mean are they like the Montagnard tribesmen were in Vietnam?
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RE: Turkey mulls over invading Iraq

Post by appleton » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:45 pm

Those terrorists obviously are not so much of a problem.
Or maybe there aren't enough troops to cover the North?

I think Turkey should talk with the U.S on this and move in if they feel the need to. This obviously shouldn't be rushed and should be well thought out. I can see the allied thing working that Rom said.
A Turk invasion though would be a real pain and I would imagine the US would do everything to stop the Turks invading.
Why's that? We aren't talking about Iran or Syria invading :icon_confused:

I too would like to find out exactly who is a Kurd too please Jafar :) I just got a picture of them being a ethnic group in a area but they don't have their own nation. Am I correct?
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Post by DodgeFB » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:55 pm

matt wrote:
Those terrorists obviously are not so much of a problem.
Or maybe there aren't enough troops to cover the North?

I think Turkey should talk with the U.S on this and move in if they feel the need to. This obviously shouldn't be rushed and should be well thought out. I can see the allied thing working that Rom said.
A Turk invasion though would be a real pain and I would imagine the US would do everything to stop the Turks invading.
Why's that? We aren't talking about Iran or Syria invading :icon_confused:

I too would like to find out exactly who is a Kurd too please Jafar :) I just got a picture of them being a ethnic group in a area but they don't have their own nation. Am I correct?
Turkey could have been more helpful at the beginning of the war. We had to bring some things in the long way around because they would not let them come through Turkey.
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Post by jafar00 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:18 pm

[quote=Romulus111VADT]
I think the US may well welcome the Turks as allies with the same objective- to eliminate terrorist. The Kurds on the other hand may not be so thrilled. The Kurds to the best of my knowledge have claimed the northern oil fields as their own and plan to enter the oil market as soon as Iraq becomes self governing and stable. The Kurds may see the Turks as a threat to their oil wealth. I believe that the Kurds think that Turkey has been eying the northern oil fields for many years.

Ummm, Jafar, please enlighten me. What exactly are Kurds? I've heard Sunni and Shia used and of course Kurd. But I'm a little vague on what they are. I mean are they like the Montagnard tribesmen were in Vietnam?
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According to wikipedia...
The Kurds are an ethnic group who consider themselves to be indigenous to a region often referred to as Kurdistan, an area which includes adjacent parts of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey.
The Kurds have been fighting for their own homeland for many years. The PKK are separatists trying to stake their claim on parts of the aforementioned countries by use of terrorism and sedition. Turkey has not laid claim to Northern Iraqi oilfields to my knowledge. The PKK are fighting for independence, not defending their oil from Turkey.
Unlike the Sunni and Shia, the Kurds for the most part do not practise Islam, but have their own religion.
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Post by Romulus111VADT » Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:13 pm

[quote=jafar00]
According to wikipedia...
The Kurds are an ethnic group who consider themselves to be indigenous to a region often referred to as Kurdistan, an area which includes adjacent parts of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey.
The Kurds have been fighting for their own homeland for many years. The PKK are separatists trying to stake their claim on parts of the aforementioned countries by use of terrorism and sedition. Turkey has not laid claim to Northern Iraqi oilfields to my knowledge. The PKK are fighting for independence, not defending their oil from Turkey.
Unlike the Sunni and Shia, the Kurds for the most part do not practise Islam, but have their own religion.
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That's interesting, the Kurds do sound allot like the Montagnard tribesmen. I never knew much about the Kurds other than Saddam seem to really hate them. It's the same for the Montagnard tribesmen. They dwell in the mountainous areas of Vietnam and are a really wonderful people. But the Vietnamese people treat them like the American Indians have been treated in the US. I've always been baffled by their hatred mainly do to the fact that the mountains to my knowledge have no value to the Vietnamese. Why they insist on going up into the mountains to terrorize the Montagnard is beyond me. It may have changed in the last 30 years, I really don't know, but it seems unlikely.

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RE: Turkey mulls over invading Iraq

Post by Lad » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:13 pm

Sometimes people may see something different as a threat (as Jafar indicated in another thread). It is like the pigeon with the bright ribbon - it gets attacked because it is different and seen therefore as a threat. Where there are differences there are tensions; where there are boundaries there are skirmishes. Nothing has changed.
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